If Other Professions Were Treated Like Photography…

25 thoughts on If Other Professions Were Treated Like Photography…

  1. Well people, I am the part time/amateur/ cheap photographer. It started as a hobby because I was able to afford a cheap camera, I set in auto mode and I started shooting. Soon people offered me money to take their pictures. So I took it. And guess what? They loved the pictures and they feel comfortable with me. now I have better camera, good set of lights, I studied in “YouTube university” lol. And some webminars And people trust me with their weedings and special events, not because I am cheap or I am all they can afford, it’s because they like to have a picture like the ones they see on my albums, and because they feel good and comfortable working with me. Many people don’t go to the professional photographer even though they can afford it, because of the attitude of a photographer and all the conditions they have in order to do an event. So they come to me. The cheap/partime/amateur photographer. Because I am able to capture the moment the feeling, they smile when they see their picture. And believe me, they don’t care about your gear or where did you learn photography or the settings of you camera, if they love the picture they will pay for it.

  2. This “debate” is so tiring. There’s a very loud group of photographers who post on social media who really give photographers a bad name. Whiny, pompous, defensive and act as if their skills are relatively unattainable for the ignorant masses. I had always thought that sort of attitude was reserved for doctors and classical musicians (yes, I’m aware this is a wide sweeping misconception.) I guess no profession has the corner market on pretension. Why can’t we just let everyone express themselves how they want, and if someone else likes it and wants to give them money…super!

  3. Surprisingly, the article doesn’t reference designers, who really have people thinking that they’re now a web designer or a graphic designer because they got a copy of Photoshop or like the newer commercials for companies like Wix. The “desktop publishing” revolution made everyone think they (and their kid) was a designer because they had more than two fonts. While yes, people can pick up a tool and start learning, being a “designer” means you understand more of the rules and reasons behind the choices.

  4. Another load of piffle. However, doesn’t it occur to these guys that sometimes the people doing jobs for peanuts are actually professional photographers desperate to feed their kids – it’s always convenient to put the blame elsewhere. Personally I’m fed up with this ‘we deserve a living’ attitude. If you don’t like it, sell your gear and do something else. The world has changed, and not for the better. It sucks, but you’re not gonna get your big fees back so accept it.

  5. It’s not just photographers… the other day I got asked to research (including finding and interviewing experts) and write a 1500 word blog post for a company. Their budget was $50. Um, no. Hell no.

  6. I know a few “commerical ” photographers i wouldn’t give two cents for the work they produce. Anyone with a camera can take a photograph and the reality is that everyone does. There are some really good amatures out there. There is a great deal to be done on the computer side of this work as well. Not everyone with a camera knows how to work with photoshop or lightroom. The difference in the high end cameras make a big difference between the amature and the professional as well. Talent comes in all shapes and sizes. Its one thing to learn out of a book, its another to have real talent and use it.

  7. Solution: Have a compulsory 3-5 year course of the very demanding variety (deep into physics of lights, optics, lenses, prisms, focal length, colour spaces,and much more) before anyone is allowed to be a professional photographer. Before you can be a “profession” you need barriers to entry and professional standards. This is why accountancy, medicine and law are professions. If what you’re doing doesn’t require years of formal training and attaining objectively high standards, then maybe accept that either this needs to change or “amateurs” will be able to compete on an equal footing.

  8. This works except there are many other professions that are treated like photography (at least online) yet require a lot more experience, and in many cases require professional licensure. Education, architecture, and psychology are three professions that come to mind that many people like to think they know how to do, yet actually can’t (and legally are not allowed to practice). The problem professional photographers face isn’t that that they don’t know what they are doing, it is that technology has advanced to the point that photography as a profession has been marginalized. Indeed, professional photographers should be hired for important events, but if most people can get away with getting their DSLR owning brother to take their wedding photos, they’ll do it.

  9. I’m a humble, part time photographer & the ‘Holier than thou’ attitude here is sickening. I have no degree in photography but I DO have 10+ years experience.
    Yes, I’ve seen really horrible photos that clients actually paid for but, MY concern is to worry about MY photos.
    I don’t charge $25, nor do I charge $200 per hour. I charge what I believe my work is worth & run seasonal specials as I see fit.
    You don’t like my photos? Don’t hire me.
    It’s as simple as that.
    I’m in competition with no one.

  10. The future with educating everyone online has made this more and more prominent in a lot of industries, sadly, photography is one of the easy ones to transition into because most consumers think, oh if I get a DSLR, I am a photographer…

  11. While I can appreciate the humor in the article I also think of photographers like restaurants. Some families can afford to make reservations and frequent upscale dining establishments and some have a budget that makes a pizza on Saturday night a luxury. The “part-time” photographer provides a service to these families that they could not otherwise afford. Isn’t it better to have family portraits taken and memories made once a year by someone you can afford than never? And not all part-time photographers do terrible work. Furthermore if you are a full-time photographer and you are losing business to a part-time photographer who does horrible work I have to question the quality of yours…or your customer service. If your images really WOW and the client has the money, no one will leave you for cheap and terrible.

  12. Jake Rotham , so what makes a proffesional photographer? a degree, time spent doing it , a love of it, or just some tool says so. too many so called photographers are just elitist asshats regardless of there skills

  13. Photography is the one medium where luck and chance can outweigh a photographers experience. So take news for example, a picture by a bystander of an event can even lend more authenticity to a picture and be even more desirable to a news publisher just for that fact. Of course if your going hire someone for a wedding thats a little different and I bemoan those that say they can take endless pictures of an event, one photos got to be ok Etc. Theyre clearly nuts. But hey thats our medium, endlessly accessible and taken for granted the world over.

  14. Some people got education about photography. .. But but can’t do good photos wedding, birthday. ….some amateur’s very talented. …so I think the good professional photographer. Never scar about that. Plus helping for the talented amateur’s. .. Respect for the prof….

  15. I am sure every “professional” went to photography school for 4 years and earned their degree. They all did internships while in school. Afterwards everyone opened a studio with the highest quality cameras and strobes. Oh wait…no? You mean they were once the amateurs stealing jobs from professionals earlier in their career? You mean some day when the amateurs today become professionals they too will complain about amateurs too?

  16. Level the playing field. If somone is selling thier services then I Let them pay for insurance and public liability and also pay thier tax. It seems no one minds at all people making money on the side when it’s photography.

  17. And so, 120+ comments later, it still rolls. I think what we learn is that there is more money to be made out of photography by ‘teaching’ photography – and whoever came up with the brainwave of leading a group of people around the streets and charging them for the privilege deserves a medal. As for the manufacturers….if anyone should be bleating it should be them, but no ! They are doing exactly what the moaning minnies SHOULD be doing. They keep re-inventing the wheel and every time they do that they can offload ‘old stock’ and recover their investments. I sure don’t know the answers, but photography is no different to any other trade. I used to call it a skill, but to be honest a vast proportion of it is a learned process. In the days of film and darkrooms the illusion of alchemy at work delineated the holiday snapper from the professional. Digital has removed the curtain ( although I’m still not personally convinced about it’s long term prospect as an archival process ). Uber has done for taxi driving what computers did for the printing trade and container shipping did for the docklands. Nobody deserves a living as a photographer. But it would be great if we all had one.

  18. The point is charging low prices drives the price down for everyone and devalues the profession. Everyone is not a photographer and making a living as a photographer requires experience and the ability to keep up with technological change. It also requires an artistic eye ie the ability to know what is a good subject, how to frame it, how to light it as well as the technological skills – just knowing how to use the tools of the trade.

  19. That said– someone on any given day can pick up a camera point it at something with only enough knowledge of which button to push and have it turn out amazing– that very rarely happens with brain surgery. 🙂

  20. true, those of us who grew up with film cameras, did our own development certainly had another perspective. We had however our tricks of improving the photos, dodging, over or under development, etc… The cameras today do an awful lot automatically so much of the things we had to do with the old film cameras are no longer relevant. I am fustrated myself sometimes because of the lack of control over exposure, etc.. depth of field… things which we had naturally in hand before. Its like the computer second guessing what we want rather than our doing it ourselves. Do you really want to save this ? or delete it ? I grew up in the darkroom with old 4 x 5 graphflex.. i can appreciate the critical views but it is as it is and we can not turn back the clock.

  21. I have seen some high end professional photographers that I would pay anything to have them photograph my dogs lol. The eye and talent behind their work makes it indeed an art form. And I have also seen some charging an arm and a leg with zero talent and nice equipment. Some need to pack it in and leave it to the talented and passionate.

  22. Its an art everyone can pickup a camera but not everybody has the eye to frame balance and capture the moment…..also most people dont understand how much money was used to get where they are, they just want free and those photographer ruin the industry.

  23. Other artists are treated worse, public art installations where they are invited to create a new work for nothing, to give them exposure to the broader public. Indigenous art in Australia mass produced in China and Indonesia. Yes everyone can take a photo, yes some hacks pass themselves off as a photographer in this now digital age. So you’re not alone, other professionals are treated exactly the same. Let them have their $25-$30 wedding photos, if you’re confident of your skillsets worth let them pass by.

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